Debbie Millman, host of Design Matters brings a live podcast experience to the National Building Museum where she speaks to Abbott Miller, graphic designer and writer, and a partner at Pentagram, about design for the built environment. Design Matters is the world’s first podcast about design and an inquiry into the broader world of creative culture through wide-ranging conversations with designers, writers, artists, curators, musicians, and other luminaries of contemporary thought. The National Building Museum's vice president of exhibitions and collections Cathy Crane Frankel previews the discussion by sharing the Museum's approach to the design choices made during the institution's own exhibition development.

This program is presented at the National Building Museum in collaboration with AIGA DC.